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Tim Kaine – Woefully ignorant or deceptively dishonest?

05 Jun

Tim Kaine, the Democrat U.S. Senate candidate, was in Hanover County when P. Henry and I had the opportunity to discuss the merits of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) with the former Virginia Governor and DNC Chair. We fully expected that Kaine, with his extensive background and high level connections would be a formidable advocate for the Presidents flagship legislation, instead he came across at best as woefully ignorant and at worst deceptively dishonest.

P. Henry asked the former Richmond Mayor, “if the Affordable Care Act is so affordable why are so many people opting out”, referring to the 1400 waivers from Obamacare that have been issued, including McDonalds and numerous unions. Kaine responded by acknowledging there have been some waivers that the real story is that 7 million companies are taking advantage of the Small Business tax credit provided for by the ACA.Kaine made this claim three times during the interview, the last time after I asked for clarification at the end of the interview. The credit is intended to offset some of the cost of providing health insurance to employees of very small businesses that employ low wage employees, a business must have fewer than 25 full-time workers or the equivalent (the hours worked by part-timers count), pay an average annual wage of less than $50,000 and cover at least half the cost of health insurance premiums for their workers.The credit is phased with credits reduced proportionately for firms with average wages over $25,000.

Kaine’s claim that 7 million businesses were taking advantage of the credit didn’t sound right so we at DTN decided to conduct a fact check and this is what we learned.

1. The IRS sent postcards to 4 million businesses they estimated to be eligible for some level of credit. CNN- Money

2. More than 4 million (4,015,300) small businesses will be eligible to receive a tax credit for the purchase of employee health insurance in 2010. – Families USA and Small Business Majority Study

3. The Small Business and Entrepreneurship Council conducted a poll that showed only 7% of eligible businesses were taking advantage of the credit citing it was too small or complex to bother. – Wall Street Journal

4. Due to the strict criteria, many small businesses can’t take advantage of a tax credit designed to reduce the cost of providing health insurance – Bloomberg Business Week 

It appears that even if every small business eligible for the tax credit was taking advantage of it, Governor Kaine’s 7 million business claim is blatantly false.

Governor Kaine then went on to claim that another positive attribute of the ACA is that now 26 million American kids aged 21 – 26 can stay on their family policies that otherwise would not have been able to without the new law. He went on to say, “So you know an awful lot of kids don’t have their own health insurance yet, through a job or something. So the fact that that means 26 million kids stay on.” Again, we questioned this 26 million figure and this is what we learned.

1.Department of Health and Human Services estimates that approximately 2.37 million young adults will be affected by the new law, out of which 1.83 million are currently uninsured. – NCSL

I don’t think we need to go any farther than that, the HHS as Timmy calls them, has definitively determined that Kaine’s claim that 26 million 21 – 26 year olds have health care insurance who would not, if not for ACA, is blatantly, ridiculously, and incontrovertibly false. 

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8 responses to “Tim Kaine – Woefully ignorant or deceptively dishonest?

  1. Otis P. Driftwood

    June 5, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    HAHA – Kaine is mostly clueless, isn’t he? Out of facts and figures he seems to like figures that don’t back up the facts. And by the time I was 21 most folks did not consider me a kid anymore. Especially my folks.

     
  2. christina Nowlin

    June 5, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    The guy is only running for Senator and doesn’t have facts and figures and on a hot topic Come on can you really put trust in someone that pulls it out of his a@@

     
  3. Frank N Shadow

    June 5, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    These are precisely the things that need to be aggressively exposed.. D= Liar, and lie they must, in order to sell their agenda.. Blatant bald faced lies with no regard to fact whatsoever.. The scary part is how common the practice is, and how it’s rationalized by them..

     
  4. Buddy Fowler

    June 7, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    I guess Tim Kaine hasn’t read the bill either! The White House is granting waivers left and right in order to avoid the increasing opposition to Obamacare. The Dems will do anything to keep this federal takeover “on the books”. Thank you for exposing Senate candidate Kaine.

     
  5. marfdrat

    June 8, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Timmy demonstrates a characteristic that lots of Dems -including our Prevaricator in Chief- seem to be using these days. Just throw out a whole bunch of lies that fit the narrative, and hope nobody notices. They figure the lapdog lamestream media will just ignore it (and they usually do, though even some lefty news outlets are getting tired of the lies: http://www.marfdrat.net/2011/06/07/obama-statistics-lies-damned-lies-and-stuff-made-up-in-speeches/).

    The trouble for the Dems is now, in the Internet age, there are millions of citizen journalists who are eager to expose their BS. Thanks, Disruptor, for exposing some more of their lies.

     
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    April 9, 2013 at 11:04 pm

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