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Conservative working women reject the welfare state, Democrats painfully befuddled.

14 Mar

Last night on MSNBC, DNC hack Karen Finney was in anguish when informed that in Alabama, 49% of working women voted for Rick Santorum. She then went on to insinuate that these women are just ignorant of the real message. She said, “yes, there’s the economy, but if you’ve got to worry about basic health care, how are you going to be able to do what you need to do as far as having a job, paying your rent, and taking care of your kids.”

What these progressives fail to understand is that conservative men and women believe that a robust economy is the key to enabling them to earn a living and provide food, housing, and health care for themselves and their families.

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14 responses to “Conservative working women reject the welfare state, Democrats painfully befuddled.

  1. P. Henry Saddleburr

    March 14, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Santorum’s passion is finally breaking through and his message about enslavement is powerful to all people. There is a 30 second soundbite in that video that needs to be extracted and promoted endlessly.

    Why did Obama push throught this mandate? To enslave us and make us bow down before government.

    The Dem talking points were just………..what they do.

     
  2. drugsandotherthings

    March 14, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Really? Rich Santorum is about a robust economy? Silly me- I thought he was about basing every position, view, proposal, and law on Christianity. The Christian version of Sharia Law?

     
    • P. Henry Saddleburr

      March 14, 2012 at 10:20 pm

      I took the liberty of bringing you into the discussion on McMartin’s post because I wanted to reach out to a guy who posts under the name ‘drugs and other things’.

      Did you not watch the video? Did you not understand what Santorum was saying? The only reason these Democrats wished for Obamacare, why they connived for Obamacare, that they threw some of their own people under the bus for Obamacare, that they passed it without public knowledge of its contents in the middle of the night under the cloak of darkness and far from public scrutiny, that they strongarmed and bulied for Obamacare, was so that they have the ability to crimp off your oxygen tube, your lifeline and to enslave you.

      You come here with some trumped up Christian/Sharia nonsense, perfectly willing to look the other way while Obama not only steals your liberties, but pounds his chest in triumph because you willingly came running to your chains.

      Incidentally. Santorum may not condone your lifestyle, whatever it may be, but don’t assume that a man who is Christian cares one wit about your personal choices. You are free do do whatever you wish as long as it doesn’t harm others. I don’t care what you choose to do either.

       
      • greatlakessocialist

        March 15, 2012 at 1:01 am

        “Obamacare” sounds pretty crap. Just general corporatism nonsense. Universal healthcare is the way to go.

         
      • Martin M. McMartin

        March 15, 2012 at 6:34 am

        Obamacare is just a brief transition to full blown, government run, woefully inadequate, Universal Health Care. I am shocked that people like you do not flock to Marxist societies that already have Universal, equally bad for all, government health care systems instead of making it your life’s work to destroy what we have.
        Equally bad Health Care for All is not an improvement, By and large,people do not go to Belize or Cuba to take advantage of their Universal Health Care, they come to America for excellent health care, or at least they used to before Obamacare.

         
      • greatlakessocialist

        March 15, 2012 at 7:00 am

        Nah. If I want universal healthcare I’ll just stay where I am. I live in the Marxist dictatorship of Australia. The healthcare here is some of the best in the world. And available to everyone. Much of Western Europe, including the UK operates along the same lines. Damn Marxists.

         
      • Martin M. McMartin

        March 15, 2012 at 8:24 am

        No, I don’t read rubbish spewed by failed stand up comedians posing as political pundits. Obeidallah is the most unfunny comedian i have ever seen. I would sit through a Carrot Top marathon on the Comedy channel before I would sit through one of his sets.

         
  3. Pedro

    March 15, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    I don’t want to be a wet blanket but that is 49% of GOP women. I’m betting 100% of FemDems are Obamaniacs who can’t wait for their next entitlement. Conservative women are typically working women whereas…

    I’d be interested in knowing what percentage of the women in Alabama are conservative.

     
  4. Pedro

    March 15, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Greatlakessocialist, just curious why the handle if you live in Oz? I work for an Australian firm and I will concur they love their health insurance. However, they are not loving their undocumented aliens and do not hand out freebies as readily as we do here. Further to that, my cronies are also very concerned about their pensions changing (in 2011) as part of the Aussie government trying to reign in their own debt before it overwhelms them as it has here. Speaking of pensions, you might, as an Aussie (if you are) recognize as being a fraction of what our U.S. government pensions are here. I’m not talking about the social security that us working peons get but the pension plans of the public sector. Do public sector pensions vary from private sector in Oz? They certainly do here. That could well affect their ability to deliver health care when they aren’t bled to death by undocumented alien care and feather bedding the public sector at retirement, which often comes at 55 for public sector workers in the U.S. If you want to talk about inequities that’s fine but don’t play socialist ball with us on an uneven playing field.

     
    • greatlakessocialist

      March 16, 2012 at 12:02 am

      I don’t quite understand your question but hopefully these provide some help.

      Australia has a system of superannuation, which the government, the individual worker and private employer pay a certain amount of money into a superannuation fund, depending on what job the worker does, and how much they work do. Upon retirement, usually at 65, the worker can use the money accumulated in this fund to support themselves.

      If the worker cannot sustains themselves off the superannuation fund, they can qualify for a government pension from Centrelink. To use Centrelink, one must have proof of identity and provide taxfile numbers. Added to this social safety net is Medicare, which is available to all Australians. However if you earn over about 150,000 per year, and do not have private health insurance (which exists alongside the public healthcare system here), you will be required a higher medicare levy in your yearly income tax.

      Australian public debt is comparatively small and manageable. It derives mostly from stimulus packages delivered by the government to combat the GFC. The government is expected to enter surplus within the next several years. The system above has worked well for decades, and has bipartisan support.

       
      • P. Henry Saddleburr

        March 16, 2012 at 10:25 pm

        If you don’t quite understand Pedro’s question, I’ll admit that I don’t quite understand your answer. This is a whole new vocabulary from those of us not in Australia. Superannuation. Is this compulsory? Do those who contribute more receive more upon retirement? Do those who contribute little receive more than their contribution plus interest?

        Do people in the private sector, those who are shop keepers and truck drivers belong to this system? Do they also, if their contributions do not yield an annuity that provides for their sustenance then get to jump into Centerlink?

        Also, why would anybody purchase private health insurance in this scenario other than to do otherwise would mean that your earnings would be confiscated anyway? Sorry. This isn’t making sense. Go ahead and buy private health insurance if you actually make a decent living, of which the government is seizing a sizable portion to pay for Medicare, but if you want to use it we’re going to take more. Is that what I’m reading here?

        So Australian debt is mostly from stimulus? Welcome to the club. By GFC are you referring to the ‘Global Financial Crisis’? Just trying to understand your euphemisms.

        And you assert that you’re nearly going to reach a surplus. Please explain how more government, more confiscation of private property and lessened private sector activity will yield a government surplus, just around the corner.

        I’m curious how this model works.

         
  5. genipero

    March 15, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Kudos to my Conservative sisters in Alabama!

    Abbot and Costello Explain Obama’s Stimulus Plan For Workers:

     
  6. greatlakessocialist

    March 16, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    @P. Henry Saddleburr

    Superannuation isn’t the simplest thing, and I’m no expert. But once you’re in full time employment, be it public or private, or in part time or casual earning over a certain amount per month, your employer must pay superannuation as a percentage of your wage into the fund of your choice. Some funds invest, some don’t. Here’s a link if you want more details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superannuation_in_Australia

    Private health insurance allows more choice in health care, like which doctor and which hospital. This is the carrot. The stick is the extra government levy that applies to earners over a certain amount who decline to purchase private health insurance. This was designed to alleviate stress on the public system. Details can be found here: http://www.ato.gov.au/content/00250854.htm

    Rather than explain how a mixed economy approach can and will achieve a surplus, I’ll let the horses do the talking themselves: http://www.budget.gov.au/2011-12/content/myefo/html/03_part_3.htm

    I hope that answers your questions.

     

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